fvlv‡hv×v Avãyj gwZb ej‡jb fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi BwZnvm‡K †h hvi g‡Zv cÖevwnZ Ki‡Z PvB‡Q
Avãyj gwZb| Kg‡iW| `xN©w`b evg ivRbxwZ‡Z mwµq| 1952 mv‡ji ivó«fvlv Av‡›`vj‡b Zuvi g~L¨ f‚wgKvi Kvi‡Y mvivwe‡k¦i evsjv fvlvfvwl‡`i Kv‡Q Ôfvlv gwZbÕ e‡j L¨vZ| 1926 mv‡ji 3 wW‡m¤^i wmivRM‡Äi `yevwjqv MÖv‡g Zuvi Rš§| RvZ msMÖvgx| ïay fvlv Av‡›`vjb Ges gyw³hy× K‡iB wbw®Œq _v‡Kbwb wZwb| Rxeb mvqv‡ý GLbI ¯^cœ iPbv K‡i P‡j‡Qb mvgvwRK I ivR‰bwZK ˆel‡g¨i wei“‡×| 1999 mv‡ji 4 Rvbyqvwi Zuvi mvÿvrKviwU wb‡q‡Qb bvwmi Avjx gvgyb|
bvwmi Avjx gvgyb: gvby‡li †ckvi wewfbœ aviv Ges my‡hvM _vK‡Z Avcwb evg ivRbxwZ‡Z Avm‡jb †Kb?
Avãyj gwZb: AvgviI RxebUv Lye `yt‡L ïi“| 1933 mv‡j gvÎ AvU eQi eq‡m gviv hvb Avgvi gv| evevi Avw_©K Ae¯’v w`bnxb| gvwmK gvÎ c‡bi i“wc †eZ‡b wZwb PvKwi Ki‡Zb `vwR©wjs‡qi Rjvcvnvo K¨v›Ub‡g‡›U| †Kivwbi PvKwi| 1932 mv‡j Avgiv wZb fvB I gv †mLv‡b evevi m‡½ emevm Kwi| bvbviKg D‡cÿv Avi `ytL-K‡ó eo n‡Z _vwK cÖK…wZi g‡a¨|
gvbyl †`wL, bvbv †ckvi mvaviY Kg©Rxex gvbyl| G‡`i mv‡_ K_vevZ©v e‡j GKUv mvš—¡bv †cZvg| fv‡jv jvM‡Zv mvaviY gvbyl| kÖgRxex gvbyl‡`i memgq Avwg m¤§v‡bi RvqMvq †i‡LwQ| Avwg G›UªvÝ cvm Kwi 1943 mv‡j `vwR©wjs Mf. nvB¯‹zj †_‡K| cvm Kivi c‡i Avwg †`Ljvg †h GLv‡b †Zv A‡bKw`b †_‡KwQ, evi-†Zi eQi; Avgvi wb‡Ri †`k GB mgZj f‚wg, GB Mwie †`kUv‡K GKUz †`Lv `iKvi| Avwg †`‡k Avwm| nvj evIqv wkwL, wbovwb wkwL, †bŠKvPvjbv wkwL, muvZvi wkwL| mvaviY gvbyl‡`i GKUz †`Lv-†evSvi †Póv Kwi|
gvgyb: ïi“‡Z Avcbvi ¯^cœ Kx wQj?
gwZb: K…lK nIqvUvB Avgvi †gvUvgywU GKUv B‡”Q wQj, nq‡Zv Avi wKQy n‡ZI cvie bv| Avwg †Kv‡bviK‡g cvm Ki‡jI Ki‡Z cvwi| Zvic‡i evevi Ici wbf©ikxj _vKe bv| Avgv‡`i wKQy Rwg Av‡Q| GB Rwg-Uwg Pvl K‡i mvaviY Rxebhvcb Kie| Avgvi cvm KiviI †Zgb m¤¢vebv wQj bv| wKQyw`‡bi g‡a¨ †UwjMÖvg †cjvg| Z…Zxq †kÖYx‡Z cvm K‡iwQ, P‡j Av‡mv| B‡Zvg‡a¨ Avgvi evevi Ae¯’v wKQy fv‡jv n‡q‡Q| wZwb ej‡jb, Zzwg fv‡jv K‡j‡R co, †m›U †Rwfqv‡m©| †nv‡÷‡j _vK| Avgv‡`i evmv †_‡K A‡bK `~i| †`Ljvg, GB Ae¯’vi g‡a¨ _vKv Avgvi †cvlv‡e bv! ejjvg, Avgv‡`i †`k mgZjf‚wg‡Z, †mLv‡bB hvB|
Avevi `vwR©wjs †_‡K cvebvq P‡j Gjvg| b`xfvO‡b Avgv‡`i `yevwjqv MÖvg A‡bK Av‡MB nvwi‡q hvq| Zvici hgybvq †R‡M IVv bZzbP‡ii kvBjRbv MÖv‡g emevm ïi“ K‡i Avgv‡`i cwievi| †mLv‡b †Kv‡bv Kg© bv _vKvq evev `vwR©wjs †h‡Z eva¨ nb| ayay evwjqviPi cÖvq Rbgvbenxb, Avgvi †`Lv `wi`ª gvbyl¸‡jvi Rxeb-msMÖvg Avgv‡K wkwÿZ Ki‡Z _v‡K| Av‡¯— Av‡¯— †mLv‡b gvbylRb mg‡eZ nq| Avgv‡K †Zv wKQy cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z nq| cvebv fv‡jv jvMj bv| †mLvb †_‡K P‡j †Mjvg ivRkvnx| fwZ© njvg ivRkvnx K‡j‡R| †mLv‡b †`Ljvg eû gymjgvb †Q‡j wewfbœ MÖvg †_‡K G‡m fwZ© n‡q‡Q K‡j‡R| `vwR©wjs‡q GZ gymjgvb QvÎ †`wLwb| Zv‡`i K_vevZ©v ïwb, mK‡jB cvwK¯—vb mg_©b K‡i! †Kb Zviv cvwK¯—vb mg_©b K‡i? gymjgvb‡`i ivó« n‡j fv‡jv n‡e| c‡i †`Ljvg, Av‡i, cvwK¯—v‡bi g‡a¨ †Zv GKUv my‡hvM Av‡Q! cvwK¯—vb n‡j c‡i Avgiv †Zv c~e©vÂj ne| `yB AÂj wb‡q cvwK¯—vb n‡e| c~e© A‡j AvgivB ne kZKiv QvàvbœRb ev GiKg msL¨vMwiô| Avgiv ZLb ejjvg, my‡hvM myweav bv †c‡j c‡i eje, Avgiv †Zvgv‡`i mv‡_ _vKwQ bv| Avgv‡`i mvZ-AvU †KvwU †jvK hv n‡e Zv w`‡q Avgiv Abvqv‡m GKUv AvaywbK ivóª M‡o Zzj‡Z cvie| GKUv RbKj¨vYg~jK †`k M‡o Zzj‡Z cvieÑGBUv g‡b K‡i Avwg ZLb Avi Gi we‡ivwaZv Kijvg bv| †mB wn‡m‡e g‡b Kijvg Av‡M cvwK¯—vb n‡q hvK Zvic‡i Avgv‡`i evsjvi e¨vcviUv Ggwb‡ZB Avm‡e|
cvwK¯—vb n‡jv| Gi g‡a¨ Avwg ivRkvnx †_‡K B›UviwgwW‡qU cvm Kijvg 1945 mv‡j, AvU©m MÖ“‡c| Zvici XvKvq P‡j Gjvg| XvKv wek¦we`¨vj‡q weG cvm‡Kv‡m© fwZ© njvg| _vKZvg dRjyj nK n‡j| Lye fv‡jv jvMj _vKvUv| Avwg Av‡¯—-Av‡¯— GB evsjv‡K hv‡Z ivó«fvlv Ki‡Z cvwi GBfv‡e Avgv‡`i hvÎv ïi“ Kivi wPš—v Kwi| A‡bK †jvKR‡bi mv‡_ cwiPq n‡Z _v‡K| Avwg ZLb mivmwi ivRbxwZ‡Z bvwg bvB| A‡bK c‡i bvwg| GB wm×v‡š— Avmjvg c‡i †h gvby‡li fv‡jv Ki‡Z †M‡j GB mgvRUv cwieZ©b Kiv `iKvi| †Zv, Kx mgvR cwieZ©b Kie| hv †`Ljvg, †h-B eo nq †m‡Zv Avi mgvR cwieZ©‡bi K_v e‡j bv| †m ZLb e‡j †h GB mgvRUvB eRvq _vK‡e| Zvi ¯^v_©Uv eRvq _vK‡e hw` mgvRUv cwieZ©b bv nq| myZivs mgvR cwieZ©b Kivi cÿcvwZ †m bv|
gvgyb: ivR‰bwZK msMVb ev kw³ Qvov mgv‡Ri cwieZ©b Ki‡Z PvB‡jb!
gwZb: nVvr g‡b n‡jv, GB †h AwkwÿZ `wi`ª gvbyl, G‡`iB mgv‡Ri cwieZ©b PvIqvUv ¯^vfvweK| hw` mgvR cwieZ©b Ki‡Z Pvq GivB Ki‡Z cv‡i| Giv †Zv GKUv cwieZ©bKvgx eo kw³| Avgvi gv_vq Gj ivR‰bwZK msMV‡bi wPš—v| Avwg ZLb QvÎ, cvm Kwi bvB| mvaviY gvby‡li fvM¨ cwieZ©b Ki‡Z cv‡i †h-B cvwU© †mUvB Avgvi Kiv `iKvi|
gvgyb: ivó«fvlv Av‡›`vj‡b Avcbvi AwfÁZvi GKUv wPÎ Zz‡j a‡ib| †mw`b Avcwb Kx K‡iwQ‡jb?
gwZb: Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y© K_v DÌvcb K‡i‡Qb| fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi BwZnvm‡K †h hvi g‡Zv cÖevwnZ Ki‡Z PvB‡Q| A‡b‡KB wb‡R‡K †MvwidvB Kivi Rb¨ mZ¨‡K Pvcv w`‡q BwZnvm‡K weK…Z K‡i‡Q| MvRxDj nK mv‡neI AvRKvj cÎ-cwÎKvq wg_¨v K_v e‡jb| wZwb †bZv wQ‡jb| wKš‘ Zuvi †bZ…‡Z¡ fvlv Av‡›`vjb nqwb| AmZ¨ Z_¨ w`‡q wZwb BwZnvm‡K weåvš— Ki‡Qb|
Avwg ZLb BDwbfvwm©wU †_‡K ewn®‹…Z n‡qwQ, 1949 mv‡j| _vKZvg dRjyj nK n‡ji cuvP bv¤^v‡i| ZLb XvKv wek¦we`¨vj‡qi wbæ †eZ‡bi Kg©Pvixiv GKUv Av‡›`vjb K‡iÑAvgiv GZ Kg †eZb cvB Avgv‡`i †eZb evov‡bv `iKvi| KZ…©cÿ ivwR bv| ZLb Zviv ag©NU K‡i| Zv Avgiv wek¦we`¨vj‡qi Qv·`i cÿ †_‡K Zv‡`i mg_©b Kwi| Zviv GKUv wgwQj †ei K‡i| wgwQ‡j AvgivI †hvM †`B| mwPevj‡q hvB gš¿xi Kv‡Q `vwe †ck Kivi Rb¨| ZLb cÖavbgš¿x bvRxgywÏb mv‡ne| mwPevj‡qi Av‡MB cywjk Avgv‡`i AvU‡K w`j| Avwg cywj‡ki mv‡_ Z‡K© wjß njvg| ejjvg, GUv ¯^vaxb †`k| †Kb Avgv‡`i `vwe †ck Ki‡Z cvie bv| Avgiv hLb †Rvo K‡i †h‡Z PvBjvg ZLb Avgv‡`i mv‡_ †kL gywReyi ingvbI wQ‡jb|
gvgyb: wZwb †Zv ZLb ivRbxwZ K‡ib, cwiwPZt
gwZb: wZwb Avgvi A‡bK Av‡M †_‡KB ivRbxwZ Ki‡Zb| Ibvi ivR‰bwZK AwfÁZv A‡bK w`‡bi| Av‡iv A‡bK ivRbxwZK wQ‡jb| wgwQj Kivi Kvi‡Y Avgv‡`i †MÖdZvi Kij| `yB gv‡mi wW‡Ubkb w`‡q XvKv †K›`ªxq KvivMv‡i cvVv‡bv n‡jv| Avwg †MÖdZvi nIqvi wKQy Av‡M wmGmwc cixÿv w`‡qwQjvg, cvwK¯—v‡bi †m‡KÛ e¨vP| cÖ_g cÖkœce© Bs‡iwR wQj, GKUv iPbv AvovBk b¤^i| Avwg AvovBk b¤^‡ii IB iPbvUv wjLjvg| GKUv iPbv AvovBk! gv‡b Giv Rvb‡Z Pvq Bs‡iwR-wUs‡iwR wKQy Rvwb wK bv| Avwg †mfv‡eB GKUv iPbv †e‡Q wjLjvg| ÔKvë Ae mycvig¨vbÕ| Avwg Avevi ÔKvëÕ k‡ãi gv‡b wbwðZ RvbZvg bv| fvejvg †h Kvë †evanq KvjPv‡ii KvQvKvwQ †Kvb Acåsk n‡e| †mfv‡eB GKUv iPbv wjLjvg| wj‡L Pvi NÈv cixÿv †kl K‡i dRjyj nK n‡ji cv‡k KvR©b n‡j Awfavb Ly‡j †`Ljvg GUvi gv‡b †Zv Ab¨! Avwg eyS‡Z cvijvg cvm Ki‡Z cvie bv| wm×vš— wbjvg evwK cixÿv †`e bv| evikÕ b¤^‡ii AviI cixÿv wQj Avwg w`jvg bv|
†R‡ji g‡a¨ GKw`b Avgv‡K Rvbv‡bv n‡jv, Avcwb wmGmwc‡Z †KvqvwjdvBW n‡q‡Qb| Avcwb GB KvM‡R GKUv mB †`b, Avcbv‡K †Q‡o †`qvi wb‡`©k w`‡q‡Q miKvi| †RjLvbvi cuvP b¤^i Iqv‡W© wQjvg| †mLv‡b †kL gywReyi ingvbI wQ‡jb| GKUv eo Iqv‡W© mevB wQjvg| hLb ejv n‡jv mB Ki‡Z Avwg †`Ljvg, GKUv RvqMvq †jLv Av‡Q ÔAvB k¨vj mve© Gwb Mfb©‡g›U `¨vU Kvgm& Uz cvIqvi †gv÷ IwewW‡q›Uwj A¨vÛ mvemvwe©‡q›Uwj|Õ g‡b Kijvg, miKvi Avm‡e Ryjyg AZ¨vPvi Ki‡e Zv‡K IwewW‡q›Uwj †g‡b †be! GUv Kx iKg GKUv `vmZ¡! GUv wj‡L †`qv n‡e| Gi e¨wZµg Kiv hv‡e bv| Gi PvB‡Z PvKwi bv KivB fv‡jv| Avwg mB Kijvg bv| †Rj‡M‡Ui Awdm †_‡K AevK nIqv †Rj cywjk Awdmvi Avgv‡K Avevi Iqv‡W© cvwV‡q w`j| Zvici c‡bi-wek w`b ci Uvg© †kl n‡j Avwg †Rj †_‡K †ewi‡q Avmjvg|
gvgyb: †R‡j †kL gywReyi ingv‡bi m‡½ Avcbvi Kx ai‡bi †hvMv‡hvM wQj?
gwZb: †kL gywRe‡KI GKB Kvi‡Y †R‡j †h‡Z n‡qwQj| ZLb †m QvÎjxM K‡i| AvUPwjøk mv‡ji gvP© gv‡m Zuvi m‡½ Avwg cwiwPZ nB| wZwb K_vevZ©vq fv‡jvB wQ‡jb| †ek mvnmx| wZwb †R‡j mevi m‡½ K_v ej‡Zb Avi mvnm w`‡Zb| †R‡ji g‡a¨ ivR‰bwZK K_v ej‡Z fq †c‡Zb bv| wZwb wQ‡jb †mvnivIqv`©x mv‡n‡ei wkl¨| KjKvZvq eo-eo †bZv‡`i m‡½ Zuvi †hvMv‡hvM I NUbv Avgv‡`i ej‡Zb| Avgiv mevB MÖvg †_‡K G‡mwQ| wZwbI MÖv‡gi †Q‡j| wKš‘ cvwK¯—vb nIqvi Av‡MB wZwb KjKvZvq wQ‡jb| eo eo †bZv‡`i m‡½ Ny‡i‡Qb| Zvi AwfÁZv Avgiv ïbZvg| †R‡ji cywjkiv Zuv‡K fq †cZ †mvnivIqv`©x mv‡n‡ei Kvi‡Y|
gvgyb: 1948 mv‡j hLb wRbœvn XvKvq G‡jb Avcbv‡`i cÖ¯‘wZUv †Kgb wQj?
gwZb: AvUPwjøk mv‡ji 21 gvP© †im‡Kvm© gq`v‡b gv_vq Uzwc I †miIqvwb civ wRbœvn mv‡ne e³…Zv †`qvi mgq hLb cvwK¯—v‡bi GKgvÎ miKvwi fvlv D`y© Kivi †NvlYv w`‡jb ZLb cÖwZev` Ki‡Z PvB‡j cv‡k _vKv Avgvi mncvwViv weiZ _vK‡Z ej‡jb| Z‡e A‡b‡KB mi‡e †mw`b cÖwZev` K‡i Ges evsjvi c‡ÿ ivq †`q|
Gmgq Avgv‡`i †Kvb iKg cÖ¯‘wZ wQj bv| Z‡e evsjv‡K †h Avgiv ivó«fvlv wn‡m‡e †`L‡Z PvB GUv wQj Dcw¯’Z mevi cÖv‡Yi `vwe|
24 gvP© wQj KvR©b n‡j XvKv wek¦we`¨vj‡qi mgveZ©b| wRbœvn‡K cÖavb AwZw_ Ki‡jb fvBm P¨v‡Ýji| eû K‡ó 20 UvKv †hvMvo Kijvg mgveZ©‡bi †cvlvK †bqvi Rb¨| Avgvi g‡b n‡qwQj fvlv wb‡q wZwb hLb mgveZ©‡b D`y©i c‡ÿ K_v ej‡eb ZLb cÖwZev` Kie mevi mvg‡b| KvR©b n‡j wRbœvn hLb D`y©i c‡ÿ ejwQ‡jb Avwg `uvwo‡q cÖwZev` Kwi| wRbœvn mv‡ne Avgvi w`‡K ZvwK‡q, Zuvi wbivcËvq wb‡qvwRZ †jvKR‡biv mevB ZU¯’| Avgvi K_vi c‡i mevB Avgv‡K mg_©b w`‡jb| Ggb Ae¯’vq co‡jb cvwK¯—v‡bi RvwZi wcZv Abyôvb †kl bv K‡i njZ¨vM Ki‡Z eva¨ n‡jb! Avgiv evsjvi c‡ÿ Av‡›`vj‡bi cÖ¯‘wZ wb‡Z _vwK|
gvgyb: †Rj †_‡K †ei n‡q Kx Ki‡jb?
gwZb: †Rj †_‡K `yB gvm ci †ei n‡j fvBm P¨v‡Ýji Zuvi Awd‡m Avgv‡K †W‡K cvVv‡jb| W. gyqv‡¾g †nv‡mb| wZwbI Avgv‡K GKUv wjwLZ e‡Û ¯^vÿi w`‡Z ej‡jb| Avwg ejjvg, miKvi Avgv‡K †Q‡o w`‡q‡Q, Avcbviv wek¦we`¨vj‡qi Kg©Pvix‡`i me `vwe †g‡b wb‡q‡Qb, Zvn‡j Avgv‡`i AcivaUv †Kv_vq? Avcwb †Zv †Rvi K‡i Avgvi Kv‡Q AvÛvi‡UwKs Pv‡”Qb| wZwb ej‡jb Avwg A‡Zv K_v ïb‡Z PvB bv, †Zvgv‡K AvÛvi‡UwKs w`‡Z n‡e Avi wWwmwcøb gvb‡Z n‡e| †mB wWwmwcøb †Zv AvRKvj BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z †`LwQ, wK wWwmwcø‡b Pj‡Q! GB Ae¯’vq Avwg ejjvg GB Ab¨vq eÛ Avwg gvb‡Z cvie bv| Avgv‡K wZb eQ‡ii Rb¨ ewn®‹vi Kij|
GB wZb eQi ewn®‹vi nIqvi Kvi‡Y Avgvi †Kv‡bv KvR _vKj bv| evwo‡Z Rvbvjvg bv| Avwg P‡j †Mjvg wmivRM‡Ä, hgybv b`xi P‡i| Avwg fvejvg †K Rvb‡e, wZb eQ‡ii ewn®‹…Z Rxeb GLv‡b †_‡K †K‡U hv‡e| 1950 mv‡j GKevi XvKvq Gjvg| GKUv †i÷z‡i‡›U e‡m Pv Lvw”Q, K‡qKRb ej‡Q, Av‡i fvB QvÎiv fvlv Av‡›`vjb Kij, AvUPwjøk mv‡ji evsjv fvlv Av‡›`vjb| GZeo Av‡›`vjb, Avgiv Zv‡`i mg_©b w`jvg| wgwQj Kijvg| †mBUv nVvr †Kb eÜ n‡q †Mj| QvÎivI †Zv Avi †Kv‡bv K_v e‡j bv evsjv‡K ivó«fvlv Kivi| evsjv hw` ivó«fvlv bv nq Avgiv †Zv G‡Kev‡i AwkwÿZ †_‡K hve| Avgiv PvKwi-evKwiI cve bv, Avgv‡`i †Kv‡bv DbœwZ n‡e bv|
K_v¸‡jv ï‡b Avgvi g‡bi g‡a¨ `vi“Y wkniY n‡jv| ZvB‡Zv, Qv·`i Ici Giv GZ Avkv Ki‡Q, A_P QvÎiv †Kv‡bv f‚wgKv cvjb Ki‡Q bv| Gi K‡qKw`b ci wØZxq evwl©Kx| 1948 mvj, Zvici 1949 Ges 1950 mvjt 11B gvP©| †mLv‡b mfv n‡”Q| †Zv Avwg †Mjvg †mLv‡b, Av‡M Avwg KLbI e³…Zv Kwiwb| Iiv ej‡Q, AvUPwjøk mv‡j Avgiv GZeo Av‡›`vjb K‡iwQ, GB K‡iwQ †mB K‡iwQ| †mB AZx‡Z Kx K‡iwQ †mBme K_v| wKš‘ †Kv‡bv w`Kwb‡`©kbv wQj bv| mfvcwZi Kv‡Q wM‡q ejjvg hw` AbygwZ K‡ibÑAvwg wK `yBUv K_v ej‡Z cvwi| wZwb ej‡jb, Lye ms‡ÿ‡c e‡jb| Avgiv ZvovZvwo wgwUs †kl K‡i w`e| †K mfvcwZ wQ‡jb Avgvi A‡Zv g‡b bvB| wZwb QvÎ| Avwg ejjvg, Avgvi K_v AwZ Aí| Gme K_v bv e‡j fwel¨‡Z hv‡Z Avgiv Av‡›`vjb Ki‡Z cvwi gvbyl GUv Avkv Ki‡Q| Avgiv hw` gvby‡li Avkv c~iY Ki‡Z cvwi, Av‡›`vjb M‡o Zzj‡Z cvwi Zvn‡j GUv weivU Av‡›`vjb n‡e| evsjv ivó«fvlv n‡e| evsjv ivó«fvlv n‡j Avgv‡`i gh©v`v n‡e, g~j¨ n‡e| †mBUv Kwi mK‡j wg‡j| GB K_v ejvi ci wek¦we`¨vj‡qi mvaviY QvÎiv cÖ¯—ve MÖnY Kij| Zviv ejj, Ibvi cÖ¯—ve Avgiv MÖnY K‡iwQ Ibv‡K AvnŸvqK K‡ib| Avwg AnŸvqK wbe©vwPZ njvg 1950 mv‡ji 11 gvP©|
gvgyb: Avcwb †Zv ZLb QvÎ bv, ewn®‹…Z?
gwZb: QvÎ bv, †K wR‡Ám K‡i! BDwbfvwm©wU ewn®‹vi K‡i‡Q e‡j QvÎiv wKš‘ Zv MÖnY Ki‡Q bv| AvnŸvqK n‡q Avwg †Mvc‡b I cÖKv‡k¨ KvR Avi¤¢ Kijvg| ZLb cywj‡ki A‡Zv bRi`vwi wQj bv| Avgvi K¬vm wQj bv| Lve Kx, Pje Kx K‡i! GKUv wUDkwb KiZvg Pwjøk UvKvi|
gvgyb: †Kv_vq Ki‡Zb wUDkwb?
gwZb: GB XvKvq KiZvg| Avgvi †mB mgqKvi QvÎ Kvgvj †nv‡mb| c‡i cÖL¨vZ AvBbwe` I ciivó«gš¿x| Zvi GK gvgv Avgvi eÜz wQ‡jb| wZwbB wUDkwbUv awi‡q w`‡jb| Avwg cÖ_gw`b wM‡q †`Ljvg GKRb mykÖx Zi“Y| wR‡Ám Kijvg, †Zvgvi †Kvb mve‡R± fv‡jv jv‡M| †m ejj, BwZnvm fv‡jv jv‡M| †Zv BwZnvm c‡oQ| nu¨v, A·‡dvW© wnw÷ª Ae BwÛqv| †m›U †MÖMwii QvÎ| ZLb Avwg ejjvg, †`wL †Zvgvi eBUv| †`Ljvg †gvUv eB| meUv Zzwg c‡oQ| ej‡jv, nu¨v| Av”Qv| Z…Zxq cvwbc‡_i hy× K‡e n‡q‡Q ej‡Z cvi| GKUz wPš—v K‡i e‡j w`j| AviI wKQy cÖkœ Kijvg, meB Zvi Rvbv| ejjvg, Zzwg †Zv fv‡jvB cov‡kvbv K‡iQ| †`‡Lv †Zvgv‡K †Zv Avwg cov‡j †Kv‡bv jvf n‡e bv| LvgvLv †Zvgvi UvKvUv bó Kie †Kb? Zzwg Ggwb fv‡jv †iRvë Kiev| `kR‡bi g‡a¨ †Zvgvi ¯’vb n‡Z cv‡i| I ejj, Avcwb G‡m Mí Ki‡eb| Avgvi wZbgvm AviI Av‡Q g¨vwUªK cixÿvi| Avwg †gvUvgywU c‡o †d‡jwQ|
Kvgvj †nv‡mb B‡j‡fš’ n‡qwQj| Ii evev ejj, B›UvwgwW‡q‡U fv‡jv Ki‡e| c‡i B›UviwgwW‡q‡U cÖ_g n‡qwQj| Zvic‡i Avwg hLb †R‡j, GKRb cywjk Iqv‡W© G‡m ej‡Q GK e¨vwi÷vi Avcbvi mv‡_ †`Lv Ki‡Z Pv‡”Q| GUv m¤¢eZ 1962 mvj n‡e| Avwg †Rj‡M‡U †Mjvg| Avgvi cv‡q a‡i mvjvg Kij GKRb Bqvsg¨vb| ejj, Avwg e¨vwi÷vwi cvm K‡iwQ| Avcwb †Kgb Av‡Qb| Avwg Avcbvi c‡ÿ GKUv †Km Kie| Avwg ejjvg, Kx †Km Kiev| ejj, GKUv wiU wcwUkb Kie| Avwg ejjvg, wiU wcwUkb `iKvi n‡e bv| Avwg hv †`LwQÑGLv‡b †evanq ZLb AvBDe Luv Avm‡Qb| wZwb Px‡bi m‡½ GKUv AvÛvi÷¨vwÛs Ki‡Qb| †Zv Px‡bi m‡½ hw` GUv nq, Zvn‡j KwgDwb÷‡`i a‡i ivL‡e bv| GUv †PÄ n‡q hv‡e| ZeyI ejv hvq bv, †Zv Zzwg Ki‡Z cvi| I Kivi Av‡MB †Rj †_‡K Avwg Qvov †cjvg|
†hUv ejwQjvg, fvlv Av‡›`vj‡b hy³ n‡Z †c‡i wb‡Ri Ic‡i mvsNvwZK GKUv Av¯’v G‡jv| Avwg †Zv AvnŸvqK| n‡j n‡j wM‡q Qv·`i msMwVZ Ki‡Z _vwK| †ewkifvM QvÎ mg_©b K‡i| †KD †KD evsjv fvlvi ¸i“Z¡ eyS‡Z bv †c‡i we‡ivwaZv K‡i‡Q|
gvgyb: 1952 mv‡j Avcbviv Kx Ki‡jb?
gwZb: evqvbœi fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi mgq †`Ljvg †h Avgv‡`i hviv fvlv Av‡›`vjb KiwQt me©`jxq ivó«fvlv msMÖvg KwgwU MVb Kiv n‡q‡Q|
gvgyb: 66 Rb‡K wb‡q?
gwZb: bv, ILv‡b wQj Rbv Pwjø‡kK, DbPwjøkRb| gIjvbv fvmvbx wQ‡jb, AvZvDi ingvb wQ‡jb, KvRx †Mvjvg gvneye Kb‡fbvi| Avwg BDwbfvwm©wU KwgwU Ae A¨vKk‡bi cÿ †_‡K GKRb †g¤^vi wQjvg|
gvgyb: †kL gywRe wQ‡jb bv †Kb?
gwZb: 1949 mv‡j AvIqvgx gymwjg jxM n‡j Zv‡Z †hvM †`q| ZLb wZwb †R‡j| 1971 mv‡j gyw³hy‡×i †bZ…Z¡ w`‡q‡Qb wZwb| wKš‘ evOvwji BwZnv‡mi me©Kv‡ji ¸i“Z¡c~Y© †h NUbvwU evnvbœi fvlv Av‡›`vjbÑZv‡Z wZwb mivmwi hy³ n‡Z cv‡ibwb| †R‡j wQ‡jb| QvÎiv Av‡›`vjb K‡i‡Q| RvZxq †bZviv mg_©b w`‡q‡Q| KwgwU‡Z Zv‡`i bvg wQj|
gvgyb: Zviv mwµq wQ‡jb bv?
gwZb: gIjvbv fvmvbx ev‡` †KD Awbevh© mvov †`bwb| KwgwUi A‡b‡KB wbw®Œq wQ‡jb| ïay Zv‡`i bvg _vKZ KwgwU‡Z| GLb Gme K_v ej‡Z †M‡j A‡b‡K cQ›` Ki‡eb bv, ej‡e Avãyj gwZb Avevi Kx e‡j! Avwg Av‡›`vj‡bi ïi“ †_‡K †fZ‡i Ges mvg‡bi KvZv‡i wQjvg| GLb A‡b‡K wgQv K_v e‡j, mvÿvrKvi †`q| wewfbœ †Rjvq †`Lv hv‡”QÑ fvlv Av‡›`vjb K‡i‡Q Ggb `vwe Ki‡Q| G‡`i †ewkifvM‡KB Avgiv †`wL bvB|
gvgyb: Avcwb gIjvbv fvmvbxi `j Ki‡Zb| nq‡Zv †mKvi‡Y Zuvi cÖwZ cÿcvZ Avcbvi?
gwZb: gIjvbv fvmvbx ïay Avgvi †bZv bbÑ wZwb Gwkqv, Avwd«Kv I jvwZb Av‡gwiKvi me©nviv gvbyl‡`i †bZv| GZ Z¨vMx †bZv Avgv‡`i Kv‡j Avi †`wLwb| wZwb ïay fvlv Av‡›`vjb‡K mg_©b †`bwb, GwM‡q wb‡q †M‡Qb| †mvnivIqv`©x mv‡n‡ei P¨vjv wQ‡jb †kL gywReyi ingvb, wZwbI gIjvbv mv‡ne‡K †Kvbw`b AeÁv K‡ibwb| AvIqvgx jx‡Mi †Lv›`Kvi †gvnv¤§` Bwjqv‡mi eBUv Avcbviv c‡ob bvB! co‡j eyS‡eb gIjvbv KZ eogv‡ci RvZxq †bZv wQ‡jb| A‡bK Av‡›`vj‡b wZwb †bZ…Z¡ w`‡q‡Qb, Rš§ w`‡q‡Qb| Ôfvmvbx hLb BD‡iv‡cÕ c‡o †`L‡eb cwðg Zuv‡K Kxfv‡e g~j¨vqb KiZ|
gvgyb: Zviv †Zv Zuv‡K ÔcÖ‡dU Ae fv‡qv‡jÝÕ †LZve w`‡qwQjt
gwZb: w`‡qwQj| Avevi dz‡ji gvjv w`‡ZI KzÉv‡eva K‡i bvB| †kL gywReyi ingvb †Kv‡bvw`bB cÖKv‡k¨ Zuvi we‡ivwaZv K‡ib bvB| wZwb Rvb‡Zb gIjvbv fvmvbxi g‡Zv †bZv bv _vK‡j evsjv‡`‡ki ¯^vaxbZv Z¡ivwš^Z n‡Zv bv! GZ Z¨vM Avi †K K‡i‡Q GB †`‡k?
gvgyb: me©`jxq ivó«fvlv msMÖvg cwil‡`i g~j¨vqb GLb Kxfv‡e K‡ib?
gwZb: Avgv‡`i Qv·`i Av‡›`vjb‡K Zviv AviI ewjô K‡i‡Qb|
gvgyb: wKš‘ ej‡jb †h †KD †KD wQ‡jb wbw®Œq!
gwZb: Avgiv †h fvlv Av‡›`vjb ïi“ Kijvgt I‡`i `jxq hviv, Zviv Pvw”Qj 144 aviv f½ bv K‡i miKv‡ii Av‡`k †g‡b Pjv| Avgiv ejjvg, miKv‡ii Av‡`k gvbvi †Kv‡bv KviY bvB| Zviv Ab¨vqfv‡e Av‡`k Rvwi K‡i‡Q| Avgiv GB Av‡`k gvbe bv| Avgv‡`i `vwe Avgiv A¨v‡m¤^wj Awfgy‡L hve, RMbœv_ n‡ji Kv‡Q| †mBLv‡b Avgv‡`i `vwe Zzje| Zv‡`i eje, †Zvgiv †Zv GKUv cÖwfwÝqvj A¨v‡m¤^wj, †Zvgiv Kx AvBb cvm Kiev| cvwK¯—v‡bi †g¤^vi wnmv‡e †Zvgiv MYcwil‡`i Kv‡Q e‡jv, †Zvgiv Avgv‡`i fvlv Av‡›`vjb‡K mg_©b Ki| Avgiv PvB, evsjv cvwK¯—v‡bi Ab¨Zg ivó«fvlv †nvKÑ GB g‡g© †Zvgiv GKUv cÖ¯—ve cvm Ki| Zvic‡i Avgiv †`Le|
GB me `vwe-`vIqv wb‡q A¨v‡m¤^wj‡Z hvIqvi Av‡MB †gwWK¨v‡ji Kv‡Q ¸wj Pjj| 21 †deª“qvwi| 144 aviv f½ n‡jv|
gvgyb: †ek K‡qK eQi Av‡M RvZxq Aa¨vcK Avãyi iv¾vK mi`vi dRjyj Kwig‡K †`qv GK mvÿvrKv‡i e‡jwQ‡jb, Ôfvlv knx` eiKZ cywj‡ki Bbdigvi wQ‡jbÕ| Avcwb ï‡b‡Qb GUv?
gwZb: ï‡bwQ| Avãyi iv¾vK mv‡ne Kx K‡i‡Qb? wZwb †Kv_v †_‡K †Kb GB wfwËnxb gš—e¨ K‡iwQ‡jb Rvwb bv| Z‡e ÷¨v›UevwR KivUv Zuvi Pwi‡Î wQj| Avgv‡`i `y‡h©vM gyn~Z©¸‡jv‡Z Zuv‡K †KD cvqwb| wZwb memgq Avov‡j †_‡K‡Qb| Zuvi g‡Zv gvbyl RvwZ‡K KZ wKQy w`‡Z cviZ|
gvgyb: Zuv‡K bvwK GKRb cywjk Kg©KZ©v GB Z_¨ w`‡qwQ‡jb|
gwZb: GKRb cywjk GiKg Z_¨ w`‡jB wZwb RvwZi mvg‡b Zv Zz‡j ai‡eb? wePvi we‡klY bv K‡iB! GKUv bZzb †`k, bZzb RvwZi cÖwZôvi j‡Mœ Zuvi g‡Zv GKRb evOvwj gymjgvb `„óvš—c~Y© Ae`vb †i‡L †h‡Z cvi‡Zb| wZwb û‡Kv dzuK w`‡q mvivRxeb cvi K‡i †M‡jb! ev¯—e †Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡jb bv|
gvgyb: Kviv fvlv ˆmwbK?
gwZb: 1971 mv‡j hviv ¯^vaxbZv hy‡×i c‡ÿ wQ‡jb Zviv mevB †hgb gyw³‡hv×v, †Zgwb 1952 mv‡ji fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi mgq hviv mg_©b w`‡qwQ‡jb Zviv mK‡j fvlv‰mwbK! Avi hw` we‡klK ev M‡el‡Ki `„wófw½ w`‡q DËi w`‡Z nq Zvn‡j ej‡ZB nq, fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi m‡½ mivmwi hviv hy³ wQ‡jb ïay ZvivB fvlv-†hv×v|
gvgyb: 1971 mv‡ji gyw³hy× bv ¯^vaxbZv hy×?
gwZb: Aek¨B ¯^vaxbZv hy×| gyw³hy× †Zv wekvj e¨vcvi| A_©‰bwZK, mvgvwRK Ges mvs¯‹…wZK mKj mgm¨v I k„•Lj †_‡K evOvwj RvwZ †hw`b gy³ n‡e †mw`b ej‡Z cv‡ib Avgiv gyw³hy‡× Rqx n‡qwQ|
gvgyb: Zvn‡j Avgv‡`i gyw³hy× Pj‡Q?
gwZb: gyw³hy× GLbI Pj‡Q| †mw`bB mwZ¨Kvi gy³ ne Avgiv, †hw`b `wi`ª gvbyl‡`i ivó« cÖwZôv Ki‡Z cvie| K…lK‡`i Rb¨ Avgiv wKQyB Ki‡Z cvwiwb| Zvn‡j wK‡mi gyw³hy×!
gvgyb: 1952 mv‡ji †deª“qvwi‡Z cywj‡ki ¸wj‡Z hviv knx` n‡jb Zv‡`i KvD‡K Avcwb wPZ‡Zb?
gwZb: cwiPq wQj bv|
gvgyb: Avcwb †Zv ZLb Qv·`i †bZvt
gwZb: fvlv knx`‡`i †KDB †dvid«‡›Ui †jvK wQ‡jb bv| Avcwb e`i“Ïxb Dgi mv‡n‡ei eBUv c‡o †`L‡eb| I‡Z me †jLv Av‡Q|
gvgyb: wVK Av‡Qt Av”Qv|
gwZb: Zvic‡i †Zv Avwg †R‡j †Mjvg| Avgv‡`i `k R‡bi bv‡g Iqv‡i›U|
gvgyb: Avi bqRb Kviv wQ‡jb?
gwZb: bqR‡bi g‡a¨ Awj Avnv` GKRb| KvRx †Mvjvg gvneye Ges c‡i gIjvbv fvmvbx A¨v‡i÷ n‡jb| †Zvqvnv mv‡ne wQ‡jb| L›`Kvi Bwjqvm Giv †KD wQ‡jb bv|
gvgyb: †Kv_vq †M‡jb †MÖdZv‡ii ci?
gwZb: Avgv‡`i AvURb‡K wigv‡Û †bqv n‡jv| †Kv_vq Kxfv‡e Kx K‡iwQ GiKg †Riv I cÖkœ Kij| Avgv‡K Avi Awj Avnv`‡K GKmv‡_ A‡bK cÖkœ Kiv n‡jv|
gvgyb: †mUv †Kv_vq, wg›Uy †iv‡W?
gwZb: bv, IB †m›Uªvj B‡›Uwj‡RÝ Awdm| m`iNv‡Ui Kv‡Q eyjeyj GKv‡Wwgi Awd‡m| IBLv‡b Avgv‡`i wZbw`b ivLj| Avgv‡K I Awj Avnv`‡K GKmgq †mcv‡iU Kij| Avwg ZLb cvwU© wejs Kwi bv| ivR‰bwZK †Kv‡bv eo †bZv‡K RvwbI bv| mwZ¨ K_v ejjvg Zv‡`i| Av‡›`vjb KiwQ Zv †Rvov‡jvfv‡e ejjvg, aiv hLb c‡owQ hv nq n‡e| cywjk Avgvi me K_v wek¦vm Kij bv| Zv‡`i m‡›`nÑ KwgDwb÷‡`i wb‡`©‡k ev ivR‰bwZK `‡ji m‡½ †hvMv‡hvM K‡i Avgiv QvÎiv Av‡›`vj‡b †b‡gwQ wK bv|
gvgyb: Avcwb †Zv KwgDwb÷ n‡Z †P‡qwQ‡jb?
gwZb: GLbI AvwQ| Avgvi †Zv g‡b nq, †` Avi bU cÖ¨vKwUK¨vj| †`‡ki Ae¯’v gvbyl GKiKg fv‡e, Avi Giv Av‡iKiKg fv‡e| Avi A‡b¨i Ici wbf©i K‡i| GB ivwkqv‡Z Kx n‡q‡Q, Px‡b Kx n‡q‡Q GUvi Ici wbf©i K‡i ivRbxwZ K‡i|
wbf©i †Zv Ki‡Z n‡e †`‡ki RbM‡Yi Ici| ZeyI KwgDwb÷iv m¨vwµdvBwms wccj| GUv †`LZvg| †R‡j _vK‡Z Avwg eySjvg, †Kv‡bv cwieZ©b Avb‡Z †M‡j GB mvaviY gvbylB Ki‡e| myZivs mvaviY gvbyl‡`i ivRbxwZ Ki‡Z †M‡j †h cvwU©Ñ †mUv †Kvb cvwU© n‡Z cv‡i? ZLb Avwg wm×v‡š— Avmjvg gymwjg jxM ev AvIqvgx jxM GB mg¯— eo‡jv‡Ki cvwU©t Giv †Zv GB mgvRUv‡KB eRvq ivL‡e| GB K‡i EbcÂvk m‡b AvIqvgx jxM n‡q‡Q, GLbI Zviv ZvB Ki‡Q| AvIqvgx jx‡Mi †jv‡Kiv, gv‡b GK GKR‡bi Kx †h Ae¯’v! XvKv‡Z GK GKR‡bi Pvi-cuvPZjv evmv, Ave`ym mvgv` AvRv`ÑIbviI cuvPZjv wewìs| GBiKg wewìs bvB Ggb †Kv‡bv AvIqvgx jxM †bZv bvB| GB †h dz‡j-†d‡c D‡V‡Q Zviv, Avgv‡`i †mUvq AvcwË bvB| nI †Zvgiv| wKš‘ †`‡ki gvbyl `vwi`ª¨mxgvi wb‡P evm Ki‡e, Zv‡`i LvIqv RyU‡e bv, Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv kxZe¯¿ bvB, GB †h eb¨v n‡q †Mj Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv Rwg bvB| Zvic‡i LvmRwg¸‡jv Zviv w`‡q w`‡”QцmB RwgAjv‡`i‡KB| GB Ae¯’vq gvby‡li †Zv fv‡jv nq bv| †hiKg AvIqvgx jxM, †miKg weGbwc, †miKg RvZxq cvwU© ev RvgvZxivÑZvn‡j cvewjK †Kv_vq hv‡e? RbMY †klch©š— Av‡›`vj‡bB hv‡e|
Avwg memgq mvaviY gvbyl‡`i c‡ÿB †_‡KwQ| †Kv‡bv PvKwi-evKwiI Kwi bvB| Avgvi `yBUv †g‡q, we‡q n‡q †M‡Q| Avgiv `yR‡b GB evwo‡Z AvwQ| MZ gv‡m eû K‡ó GB evwoi fvovUv w`‡qwQ| Avwg fvewQjvg Avi †evanq evwoUvq _vKv hv‡e bv| GKUv †QvU-†gv‡Uv Ni fvov Ki‡Z n‡e| †mLv‡b †`o-`yB nvRvi UvKvq GK i“g cvIqv hvq| RbKÉ cyi¯‹viUv †c‡q AvcvZZ †eu‡P †MwQ| †Kv‡bvw`b †KD AvbyôvwbK m¤§vb †`qwb|
gvgyb: ivó«xq cyi¯‹vi cvbwb e‡j †ÿvf Av‡Q?
gwZb: bv bv, Giv †Kb kΓ‡K cyi¯‹vi †`‡e? GB ivó«Uv †Zv G‡`i| Giv hv‡`i ¯^v‡_©i we‡ivax g‡b K‡iÑZv‡`i Giv w`‡Z Pvq bvwK! †mB Rb¨B RbK‡Éi GUv‡K Lye e¨wZµg g‡b n‡q‡Q| Avgvi hw` †Kv‡bv ¯’vb _v‡K Ges mgvR Zv bv †`q, Avwg †Zv wKQy Ki‡Z cvwi bv|
gvgyb: fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi BwZnvm weK…Z n‡”Q, GUv ¯^vfvweK g‡b K‡ib?
gwZb: GUv Lye ¯^vfvweK cÖwµqv| cÖK…Z BwZnvm‡K Nywi‡q-†cwP‡q †h hvi g‡Zv K‡i wb‡”Q, †`LwQ| Avgv‡`i BwZnvm weK…wZi GKUv aviv Avw`Kvj †_‡K Pvjy Av‡Q| fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi BwZnvm GLbI Amy¯’| GUv‡K †mev Kiv `iKvi|
gvgyb: ejwQ‡jb e`i“Ïxb Dgi mv‡n‡ei eBUv co‡Z| bvwK Ab¨ †Kv‡bv Bw½Z w`‡Z PvB‡Qb?
gwZb: wZwb A‡bK †L‡U KvRwU K‡i‡Qb| Zvi cwikÖ‡gi Zzjbv nq bv| fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi BwZnvm‡K RvwZi Kv‡Q †cuŠ‡Q w`‡q‡Qb| wKš‘ †Kv‡bv †Kv‡bv RvqMvq duvK i‡q †M‡Q| wZwb hw` mivmwi Av‡›`vj‡bi m‡½ mvg‡bi KvZv‡i hy³ _vK‡Zb Zvn‡j Zuvi eB¸‡jv AviI g~j¨evb n‡Zv| Zuvi evev Aveyj nvwkg mv‡ne cwÊZ gvbyl wQ‡jb, wKš‘ fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi e¨vcv‡i Zuvi f‚wgKv wQj cÖkœwe×|
gvgyb: fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi mwVK BwZnvm Avcbviv wjL‡jb bv †Kb?
gwZb: hviv fvlv Av‡›`vjb K‡iwQ‡jb Zviv †KD †KD †Zv wj‡L‡Qb| wKš‘ wb‡R‡K mvgjv‡Z cv‡ibwb| Avwg ej‡Z PvBwQjvg wb‡g©vn †_‡K BwZnvm †jLvUv nqwb| e`i“Ïxb Dgi mv‡ne †mw`K †_‡K †gvUvgywU mdj n‡q‡Qb|
gvgyb: ivRbxwZ‡Z Kxfv‡e Avm‡jb Ges P‚ovq DV‡Z cvi‡jb bv †Kb?
gwZb: gš¿x ev †Kv‡bv c‡` IVvi Rb¨ Avwg ivRbxwZ‡Z Avwm bvB| Kv‡RB †Kv‡bv P‚ov ¯úk© Kivi AwfcÖvq wQj bv| 1953 mv‡j wPš—v Kijvg, GKUv msMwVZ ivR‰bwZK kw³i m‡½ KvR Ki‡Z n‡e| ZLb †_‡K Avwg KwgDwb÷ cvwU©fz³ AvwQ|
gvgyb: msMVbwUi bvg wK?
gwZb: c~e© cvwK¯—vb KwgDwb÷ cvwU©| Pxb g‡¯‹vcwš’iv me GK RvqMvq wQjvg| gIjvbv fvmvbx KwgDwb÷ cvwU© Ki‡Zb bv| wZwb AvIqvgx gymwjg jx‡Mi| Z‡e gwY wmsn, †LvKv ivq Giv wQ‡jb|
gvgyb: cvwU©i cÖavb Kviv wQ‡jb?
gwZb: Kg‡iW gwY wmsn, †LvKv ivq Giv| Giv wQ‡jb ey‡R©vqvwbf©i GKUv evg `j| abxK‡`i Ici wbf©ikxj wQj| KwgDwb÷ cvwU© gv‡b Mwi‡ei `j| `y¯’ †jv‡Ki cvwU©| †m wn‡m‡e Zviv Mwie‡`i K_v ej‡et Zv bv K‡i abxK †kÖYxi ¯^v_© †`LZ| ey‡R©vqv‡`i †jRyoe„wË KiZ Zviv| Ges †`‡Lb, Zv cÖgvYI n‡q‡Q| AvR‡K 50 eQ‡ii g‡a¨ Zviv GK UzKiv NvmI Zzj‡Z cv‡i bvB| MYgvby‡li Rb¨ †Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡Z †c‡i‡Q Ggb cwiPq bvB| wKQyB Ki‡Z cv‡i bvB|
†Kb cv‡i bvB? c„w_exi wewfbœ †`‡k wecøe Ki‡Z bv cvi‡jIt †bcv‡j wecøe Ki‡Z cv‡i bvB †Zv †mv †nvqvU, †mLv‡b KwgDwb÷iv GKUv gh©v`v wb‡q Av‡Q| Avgv‡`i cÖwZ‡ewk cwðg evsjvq, ZvivI †Zv wecøe Ki‡Z cv‡i bvB, wKš‘ ZvivI gh©v`v wb‡q `uvwo‡q Av‡Q| ivwkqv‡Z wecøe K‡iwQj| wecøe Avevi e¨_© n‡q‡Q ev †mLv‡b AvR‡K ey‡R©vqviv ÿgZvq G‡m‡Q, Zv‡Z wK n‡q‡Q! Px‡b mdjI n‡Z cv‡i Avevi bvI n‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ †mvwf‡q‡Z mg¯— gvby‡li GKUv K‡i evwo w`‡qwQj, GUv wK †mvRv K_v! cÖ‡Z¨KUv †jvK wkwÿZ n‡Z †c‡iwQj| GKUv wbivcËv wQj| wKš‘ cieZ©xKv‡j Giv †mB Av`k© Z¨vM Kij, Zvic‡i Avgjv n‡q †Mj| UvKv-cqmv evwYR¨ e¨w³MZ Ki‡Z wM‡q GB †h GLbKvi Ae¯’v! GLb †Kv‡bv gvb-m¤§vb bvB, gh©v`v bvB| Zv‡`i †KD g~j¨ †`q bv|
†Zv c„w_exUv µ‡gB mvg‡bi w`‡K hv‡”Q| Avc‡b fv‡jv Rv‡bb, Avc‡b GKUv gWvb© †UK‡bvjwRi mv‡_ Av‡Qb; †`L‡Qb †Zv c„w_exUv †Kv_vq hv‡”Q! µ‡gB DbœwZi w`‡K hv‡”Q| gvby‡li Ici AZ¨vPvi, gvbeZvi Ici AZ¨vPvi GUv K‡g Avm‡Q|
gvgyb: Avcwb †Kvb Avjvg‡Z GB K_v ej‡jb?
gwZb: †`L‡Qb bv gvbyl KZ m‡PZb n‡q‡Q! gvbyl Gme AZ¨vPvi †ewkw`b mn¨ Ki‡e bv| Ges mg¯— gvby‡li MYZ‡š¿i Rq n‡e| GUv Avwg eyS‡Z cviwQ AwfÁZv †_‡K Ges GBUvi Rb¨B msMÖvg KiwQ| Avwg mš‘ó †h Avgvi KZ©e¨ cvjb K‡iwQ|
gvgyb: 1953 mv‡j c~e© cvwK¯—v‡bi KwgDwb÷ cvwU©‡Z Avcwb mKj evgcwš’i m‡½ wQ‡jb| wKš‘ c‡i jvBb cwieZ©b Ki‡jb †Kb?
gwZb: GUv 1962 mv‡jt Pxb I ivwkqvi g~j ZdvrUv wQjÑ ivwkqv g‡b K‡i‡Q †h GKUv wecøe Ki‡Z n‡e cwieZ©‡bi Rb¨| Zviv Kij 1917 mv‡j| Zvici †_‡K mK‡jB g‡b Kij ivwkqvi c‡_B wecøe n‡e| wKš‘ Pxb hLb Avm‡jvt Zviv 1922 mv‡j cvwU© Kij| Zvici Av‡¯— Av‡¯— eo cvwU© n‡q †Mj| wPqvs KvB‡k‡Ki m‡½ Zvi gZwe‡iva NUj 1927 mv‡j Ges Gic‡i GjvKv MVb K‡i msMwVZ n‡q evwnbx Kij Ges wPqvs KvB‡kK‡K di‡gvRvq Zvwo‡q w`j|
Px‡bi gvI †mZzs cÖ_‡gB e‡jwQj, †`L †Zvgv‡`i mgvR Avi Avgv‡`i mgvR GK bq| †Zvgv‡`i mgvR cyuwRev`x mgvR n‡q hv‡”Q| Avi Avgv‡`iUv GLbI mvgš—ev`x mgvR i‡q †M‡Q ev Avav mvgš—ev`x n‡Z †c‡i‡Q| myZivs Avgvi †`‡ki g‡a¨ mgvRZš¿ GLbB GKav‡c Kiv hv‡e bv| Avgvi GLv‡b GKUv wccjm †W‡gv‡µwm, wWK‡Uiwkc Ae `¨v wccj| GLv‡bB Zdvr nj|
Avgvi ZLb IB Px‡bi c_Uv‡K mwVK g‡b n‡jv| Zvic‡i, hviv ivwkqvAjv‡`i cQ›` KiZ, Zviv i“kcš’x n‡q †Mj| `yB fvM n‡q †Mj| ZLb gwY wmsn Avgv‡`i ej‡jb, †h‡nZz ewbebv n‡”Q bv Avcbviv Pxbcwš’ †Kv‡bv cvwU© Ki‡Z cv‡ib| Avgiv i“k jvBb‡K mwVK g‡b KiwQ, Avgiv GB cvwU©‡ZB _vK‡Z PvB| _v‡Kb Avcbviv| Avcbv‡`i mv‡_ _vBKv Avgv‡`i wecøe n‡e bv| Avgiv Avjv`v n‡q hve|
gvgyb: Kg‡iW gwY wms‡ni `j AvÛviMÖvD‡Û †M‡jb †Kb?
gwZb: Zviv †Kb †h AvÛviMÖvD‡Û †Mj Zv †Zv eywS bv| miKvi †Zv Zv‡`i‡K e‡j bvB| wb‡R wb‡R AvÛviMÖvD‡Û †Mj| cvwK¯—vb nIqvi ci 1948 mv‡j KZ¸‡jv fzj cwjwm-Uwjwm wbj, ÔB‡q AvRv`x SzUv n¨vq jv‡Lv Bbmvb fyLv n¨vqÕÑ GBme †¯vMvb fviZxq cvwU©i g‡Zv K‡i †`Iqv‡Z cvwK¯—vb miKvi my‡hvM †cj, G‡`i‡K †R‡j wbj| ZLb cvwU© AvÛviMÖvD‡Û †Mj| AvÛviMÖvD‡Û _vK‡Z _vK‡Z gvwUi Ic‡i Avi Avm‡Z cvij bv| GLb hw`Iev Avm‡Q, gvbyl Zv‡`i †P‡bI bv| Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv ¯^xK…wZ bvB| Zviv †Kv‡bv wecø‡ei c‡ÿ KvR K‡i bvB|
gvgyb: GK mgq AvcbvivI †Zv AvÛviMÖvD‡Û wQ‡jb?
gwZb: Pxbcwš’iv wQj| wKš‘ Aí mg‡qi Rb¨| c‡i Avgiv †`Ljvg AvÛviMÖvD‡Û †_‡K KvR Kiv hv‡e bv| ZLb wbe©vP‡bi †Póv Kijvg| Avwg `yBevi wbe©vP‡b `uvwo‡q wQjvg| IqvKvm© cvwU© †_‡K| ïay AvgviB RvgvbZ ev‡Rqvß nq bvB| evi nvRvi, Av‡iKevi mv‡o evi nvRvi †fvU †c‡qwQjvg| Avgvi †Zv UvKv-cqmv bvB| LiP bv Ki‡Z cvi‡j G‡`‡k †KD †fvU †`q bv|
gvgyb: 1970 mv‡j Avcbviv wbe©vP‡bi we‡ivwaZv K‡iwQ‡jb hLb evOvwj RvwZ Gi c‡ÿ wQj|
gwZb: †mB wbe©vP‡b Avgv‡`i wm×vš— wQj nUKvix| RbMY Pv‡”Q wbe©vPb Ki, †`k ¯^vaxb Ki| Avgiv HUv †_‡K wew”Qbœ n‡q cojvg|
gvgyb: Avcbviv fzj wm×vš— wb‡jb †Kb?
gwZb: fzj wm×vš— gv‡b wPš—v Abyhvqx fzj nq‡Zv| gyj¨vqbUv n‡e ev nq wK‡mi Ic‡it Avwg nq wb‡Ri kw³‡K †ewk K‡i ev Kg K‡i †`Lvi d‡j nq| h_vh_fv‡e †`L‡j c‡i wm×vš— mwVK nq| AvIqvgx jxM wbe©vPb K‡i mwVK KvRwU K‡iwQj|
gvgyb: gyw³hy‡× Avcbv‡`i `j Px‡bi wm×v‡š—i Kvi‡Y evOvwj RvwZi `xN©w`‡bi cÖZ¨vkv‡K mg_©b w`‡Z cv‡iwb, wbw®Œq wQj|
gwZb: ¯^vaxbZvi wZwik eQi c‡iI Avgv‡`i gyw³hy× GLbI Pj‡Q| †K e‡j Avgiv gy³ n‡qwQ? Avcwb †h Awf‡hvM Ki‡jb 1971 mv‡j Avgiv wKQy Kwiwb| Avgv‡`i cvwU© LyeB mwµq wQj| Avgiv Avwg©i mv‡_ jovB K‡iwQ| †Zvqvnv mv‡ne Zvi GjvKvq †bvqvLvjx‡Z dvBU K‡i‡Qb| K‡qK RvqMvq m¤§yL hy×I K‡i‡Qb wZwb| †Kv‡bvw`b cÖKv‡k¨ AvnvRvwi ev `vwe K‡ib bvB †h, wZwb gyw³‡hv×v wQ‡jb| cÖK…Z †`k‡cÖwg‡Ki g‡Zv wZwb cvKevwnbxi wei“‡× hy× K‡i‡Qb|
Avgv‡`i GjvKvq DËie‡½ Avgiv dvBU K‡iwQ| fvi‡Z hvIqvi cÖ‡qvRb g‡b Kwiwb| cvKevwnbxi A¯¿ wQwb‡q wb‡q hy× K‡iwQ| AvIqvgx jx‡Mi eo †bZviv Avgv‡`i Lei Rvb‡Zb| ZvRDÏxb Avgv‡`i Z¨v‡Mi K_v Rvb‡Zb| wKš‘ ¯^vaxbZvi ci AvIqvgx jxM ÿgZvq G‡m ¯^vaxbZv‡K Zv‡`i GKgvÎ AR©b K‡i Ab¨‡`i Ki‡jb D‡cÿv| me c`K †LZve wb‡q †M‡jb Zviv| hy× Zviv GKvB K‡i‡Qb †evSv‡jb †kL mv‡ne‡KI| RvZxq wPš—vi dvUj ZvivB awi‡q‡Qb| Avgiv AvIqvgx jx‡Mi AZ¨vPv‡ii we‡ivwaZv K‡iwQ| †Kv_vI Avgv‡`i GZUzKzI RvqMv †`qv nq bvB| Avgv‡`i A‡bK †bZv-Kg©x‡K wbg©gfv‡e webv wePv‡i Zviv nZ¨v K‡i‡Q| GLbI GB nxb KvR Pvwj‡q hv‡”Q|
GB †`kUv wK ïayB AvIqvgx jx‡Mi? gIjvbv fvmvbx‡K gy‡Q †djvi †PóvI wQj| †kL mv‡ne Rvb‡Zb wZwb Avm‡j Kvi wkl¨| †mvnivIqv`©x bq, Avm‡j gIjvbv fvmvbxB Zvi ¸i“| †gnbwZ gvby‡li Ggb wekvj ivR‰bwZK e¨w³Z¡ Gwkqv Avwd«Kvq weij| fvmvbx Qvov evOvwj gymjgvb‡`i weKvk n‡Zv bv|
1971 mv‡ji 16 wW‡m¤^i hLb †`k ¯^vaxb n‡jv Avgiv †`‡ki †fZ‡iB wQjvg| Zviv me fviZ †_‡K G‡m eovB Kiv ïi“ Kij| wKš‘ †`‡ki g‡a¨ †_‡K cvKevwnbxi A¯¿ wQwb‡q Zv‡`i m‡½ hy× Kiv †hv×v Avgiv| Avgiv †Zv GLv‡b wQjvg| Avwg©iv Avgv‡`i gv-†evb‡`i AZ¨vPvi K‡i‡Q| ¸wj K‡i †g‡i‡Q| MÖvg cywo‡q w`‡q‡Q| Gm‡ei g‡a¨ Avgiv hy× K‡iwQ| fvi‡Z Avgv‡`i `yÕPviRb Kg©x hLb †Uªwbs K¨v‡¤ú †M‡Q Zv‡`i‡K †Uªwbs bv w`‡q nvZ-cv †eu‡a nZ¨v Kiv n‡q‡Q|
gvgyb: gvIjvbv fvmvbxI fvi‡Z AvkÖq wb‡qwQ‡jb|
gwZb: gvIjvbv fvmvbx ZLb GLv‡b, Zvi evwo‡Z, webœvcy‡i Av¸b jvwM‡q w`j| †Zv gIjvbv fvi‡Z †M‡jb| ZviI †Zv wKQy ˆØZPwiÎ wQj| wn IqvR c¨vwUªqU †bv WvDU| wjWvi wnmv‡e fvmvbx ev gywReÑ Kv‡iviB A¨vWfvÝ wPš—v wQj bv| fvmvbxB †nvK Avi AvIqvgx jxMt Avgiv †KŠkj MÖnY Kijvg fvi‡Z hve bv| Avgiv GLbI g‡b Kwi, fvi‡Z bv wM‡q Avgiv †Kv‡bv fzj Kwiwb|
gvgyb: GKvËi mv‡j Pxb Avgv‡`i ¯^xK…wZ w`j bv| †Kb Zviv GB wm×vš— wb‡qwQj?
gwZb: GUv †Zv fzj e‡UB| c‡i Zv‡`i‡K Avgiv e‡jwQ †Kb Avcbviv GUv K‡iwQ‡jb| Zviv e‡j‡Q, †`‡Lv Avgiv †hUv g~j¨vqb K‡iwQ Avgv‡`i g~j¨vqbUvq GLbI AUj AvwQ| ZLb Avgiv g‡b K‡iwQ cvwK¯—vb ivó« n‡q‡Q, cv‡k eo ivó« fviZ| fviZ hv‡Z AvwacZ¨ev`x kw³ wn‡m‡e gv_vPvov w`‡q DV‡Z bv cv‡i GB A‡j Zv Avgv‡`i †`L‡Z n‡q‡Q| GBUv Zv‡`i wbR¯^ g~j¨vqb|
gvgyb: Avcbviv wK ivR‰bwZK jvB‡bi Kvi‡Y wcwKs †_‡K A_©Kwo †c‡Zb?
gwZb: Avgiv †cZvg bv| meiKg cÖwZK‚jZvi †fZi w`‡q jovB Ki‡Z n‡q‡Q Avgv‡`i| g‡¯‹vcwš’iv gv‡m gv‡m gv‡mvnviv †c‡ZbÑGB †mvwf‡qZ cZ‡bi Av‡Mi w`b ch©š—| evsjv‡`‡k Zviv wQ‡jb g‡¯‹vi †eZbfz³ ivR‡bwZK Kg©Pvix!
†kL mv‡ne RvZxqZvev`x †bZv wQ‡jb| ZvRDÏx‡bi m‡½ Zuvi Kbwd¬± n‡qwQj| KviY ZvRDÏxb Bw›`iv MvÜxi Lvm †jvK wn‡m‡e †MÖv K‡iwQ‡jb| †kL gywR‡ei GZ fviZ cÖxwZ nIqvi Awfjvl wQj bv| wZwb g‡b Ki‡Zb GKUv ¯^vaxb evwYR¨ I K‚U‰bwZK f‚wgKv cvjb Ki‡eb| wKš‘ ¯^vaxb f‚wgKv cvjb Ki‡Z n‡j Zvi GKUv ¯^vaxb †mbvevwnbx _vKv `iKvi| wKš‘ wZwb iÿxevwnbx Ki‡Z †M‡jb| eo GKUv fzj Ki‡jb|
gvgyb: Avcbviv AvÎvB‡Z Kx Ki‡Zb?
gwZb: AvÎvB wQj Avgv‡`i †Mvjv-evi“‡`i NuvwU| †mLv‡b KvR KiZvg Avgiv K…lK w`bgRyi‡`i wb‡q| Avgv‡`i eû †`k‡cÖwgK Kg©x‡K gywRe Avg‡j †Mvc‡b nZ¨v Kiv n‡q‡Q| 1972 mv‡j AvÎvB‡Z Avgv‡`i mv‡_ K‡qKevi miKvix evwnbxi e›`yKhy× nq| m¤¢eZ Ryb gv‡m ¸wjwewbgqKv‡j hLb wcQy nUwQjvg Avgiv, Avgvi Wvb cv‡q ivB‡d‡ji ¸wj jv‡M Ges bv‡Uv‡i G‡m i³v³ Ae¯’vq nvwZqvimn aiv cwi Avwg| Avgvi †Rj n‡q hvq| gywR‡ei g„Zz¨i cÖvq 2 eQi ci 1977 mv‡j gyw³ cvB|
gvgyb: `yB evsjv GK n‡Z cv‡i?
gwZb: Avgiv †Zv evsjv fvM Ki‡Z PvBwb| IivB †Zv P‡j †Mj| H‡h ejj, evsjvq †hme †Rjvq wn›`y †gRwiwU †mBme †Rjv wb‡q Avgiv BwÛqv‡Z _vKe| †Zvgv‡`i m‡½ _vKe bv| Zviv P‡j †Mj| GLb Zviv eyS‡Z‡Q Avgiv †Zv †K‡›`ªi cvËv cvw”Q bv| GLb Zviv wPš—v Ki‡Q| hw` Zviv wPš—v K‡i g‡b K‡i, ag© hvB †nvK, Avgiv †Zv mevB evOvwj| GKB fvlv|
Avwg BwÛqv‡Z †M‡j c‡i †Zv Zv¾e n‡q hvB, Avgv‡`i gZB evsjv ej‡Q| Avgv‡`i Kv‡Q wk‡L †Zv Zviv evsjv ej‡Q bv| Zv‡`i GUv g¾vMZ fvlv| †mfv‡e GK fvlv GK RvwZ †f‡e hw` RbMY e‡j ev Pvq Zvn‡j GK n‡Z Amyweav _vK‡Z cv‡i bv| evOvwj RvwZ hLbÑ ZLb GK nIqvB †Zv DwPr g‡b Kwi|
gvgyb: ZLb Iiv †Wvwg‡bU Ki‡e bv?
gwZb: †Wvwg‡bU †Zv Ki‡eB, hw` Avgiv wkÿv I ivRbxwZ‡Z A¨vWfvÝ bv _vwK| ivRbxwZ‡Z Zviv cðv`c` Ae¯’v‡b|
gvgyb: ZvB Kx!
gwZb: e‡U| Avgiv hy× K‡i †`k ¯^vaxb K‡iwQ| Avgiv fvlv Av‡›`vjb K‡iwQ| Zviv wK Ki‡Z †c‡i‡Q?
gvgyb: wKš‘ hLb GK n‡q hv‡eb, ZLb KvR Ki‡e eyw×e„wËUvt
gwZb: †mB Rb¨B †Zv AgZ©¨ †mb ej‡Qb, nvo-gvsm hviv wPevBqv LvB‡Z‡Qt GB e¨e¯’vi cwieZ©b Ki‡Z n‡e| g~jK_v, GB cyi‡bv †kvl‡Yi e¨e¯’vaxb †hme ivó«Ñ †m ivó«e¨e¯’v Avi Pj‡e bv| G-ai‡bi ivó« RbM‡Yi cÖZ¨vkv c~iY Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j †Zv Pj‡e bv| RbMY‡K _vKvi e¨e¯’v Ki‡Z n‡e, PvKwi w`‡Z n‡e, Lvevi w`‡Z n‡e| gh©v`v w`‡Z n‡e| Avwg g‡b Kwi evOvwj‡`i GK nIqv `iKvi|
gvgyb: Avcwb wb‡R GKvËi mv‡j ¸wj Pvwj‡q‡Qb, †Kv_vq?
gwZb: nu¨v| †mUv AvwiPv bMievox, GLv‡b dvBU n‡qwQj| iv‡Z n‡q‡Q, w`‡b n‡q‡Q| GKvˇii GwcÖj gv‡m bMievoxi Hcv‡i hgybv b`xi Zx‡i ILv‡b nVvr K‡i ïbjvg cvK Avwg©i †jv‡Kiv GKUv K¨v¤ú K‡i‡Q Wve evMv‡b| ILv‡b A‡bK bvwi‡Kj MvQ-UvQ wQj| ILvb †_‡K cuvP gvBj `~‡i bMievox Avwg©‡`i eo K¨v¤ú| Zv‡`i Kv‡Q Bbdi‡gkb Avm‡QÑGB b`x w`‡q evOvwj ˆmwbK‡`i GKwU `j fvi‡Z hv‡e| ZLb Iiv GUv‡K AvUKv‡e| Avgiv †LuvR wb‡q †`Ljvg, GUv †Zv cvKevwnbx bv, Avgv‡`i evwnbx| †hB Avgiv b`xi Kv‡Q I‡`i‡K mvnvh¨ Kivi Rb¨ GwM‡q †MwQ GB mgq cvKevwnbx A¨vUvK Kij I‡`i| IB Wve evMv‡b| Iiv PviRb gviv †Mj Ges cvK Avwg©iv cvwj‡q †Mj| fvi‡Z hvIqvi Rb¨ Zviv wQj †gvU evBkRb| hvIqvi c‡_ Ggb GKUv NUbvq †ek av°v †L‡jb Zviv| Iiv Avgv‡`i cuvPUv ivB‡dj ¸wjmn w`‡jb|
hviv gviv †M‡jb Zv‡`i c‡KU †_‡K AvBwW KvW© cvIqv †Mj| †mLvb †_‡K wVKvbv msMÖn K‡i ¯^Rb‡`i ewikvj I Lyjbvq wPwV w`‡q Rvbvjvg Avcbv‡`i AgyK †jvK hy‡× gviv †M‡Qb| Zv‡K Avgiv mva¨gZ `vdb K‡iwQ| †Kv‡bv mgq hw` my‡hvM nq GLv‡b G‡m †`‡L †h‡Z cv‡ib| Zuv‡`i m¤§vbRbK g„Zz¨ n‡q‡Q| Avgiv Zuv‡`i Awfb›`b RvbvB| Avcbviv ÿwZMÖ¯’ n‡q‡Qb e‡U| wKš‘ †`‡ki Rb¨ Zviv Ae`vb †i‡L †M‡jb| GBfv‡e wPwV cvwV‡q w`jvg|
Avgvi evev‡K †g‡i †d‡j‡Q, Avgvi fvB‡K †g‡i †d‡j‡Q, evwoNi R¡vwj‡q w`‡q‡Q| Avgvi fvB hgybvi Kv‡Q GKUv evwo‡Z ivB‡d‡ji bj cwi®‹vi KiwQj| Gig‡a¨ bMievox †_‡K Lei †c‡q cvKevwnbx G‡m AvµgY Kij| Zv‡K Avg©mmn aij Ges A‡bK AZ¨vPvi K‡i nZ¨v K‡i‡Q| Zvi WvKbvg wQj gby| kvRv`cy‡ii MÖvg †_‡K Avgvi evev‡K a‡i wb‡q hvq| ZLb Zvi eqm cÖvq cuPvËi| Zv‡K gv‡i ivRvKvi-Avje`iiv| hy× K‡i cvK Avwg© †g‡i Zv‡`i nvwZqvi wQbZvB K‡i Zv‡`i wei“‡× hy× K‡iwQ| †Kv‡bv GK RvqMvq `yB ivZ _vK‡Z cvwi bvB| RvqMv e`j Ki‡Z n‡q‡Q| cvK Avwg© memgq Avgv‡`i f‡q ZU¯’ _vKZ|
gvgyb: Avcwb GLb Kx K‡ib?
gwZb: K…lK msMVb, K…lK mwgwZ Kwi| Avi wKQy †jLvi †Póv KiwQ| 1971 mvj ch©š— G‡mwQ| fvlv Av‡›`vj‡bi ¯§„wZPviY wj‡LwQ| A‡bK Z_¨ fz‡j hvB| GUvi Rb¨ cÖPzi M‡elYvi `iKvi| †eu‡P _vKvi e¨e¯’v Ki‡Z A‡bK mgq cvi Ki‡Z n‡q‡Q| Avgvi RxebUv AZ mnR wQj bv| Rxe‡bi cÖ‡Z¨K euv‡K cÖwZK‚jZvi ga¨ w`‡q Avm‡Z n‡q‡Q|
gvgyb: nK-†Zvqvnv-gwZb-AvjvDÏxb MjvKvUv ivRbxwZ K‡ib, Avcbv‡`i m¤ú‡K© GUv †Kb ejv nq?
gwZb: GUv nj Kg‡iW Pvi“ gRyg`v‡ii jvBb, LZg Kiv| MYkΓ LZg Ki| Avwg g‡b Kwi IUv wQj fzj jvBb| Avwg IUv mv‡cvU© Kwi bvB| wKš‘ cvwU© K‡iwQj| GB wm×vš—Uv mˇii w`‡K Avi¤¢ n‡qwQj c~e©evsjvq| nUKvix †Kv‡bv cwjwm `xN©¯’vqx nq bv| K…lK Qvov GLv‡b wKQy Kiv hv‡e bv| cyuwRev‡`i wei“‡× wecøe Ki‡Z n‡j Av‡M K…lK‡`i msMwVZ Ki‡Z n‡e|
gvgyb: Avcwb g‡b K‡ib wecøe n‡e G‡`‡k?
gwZb: wbðqB| n‡ZB n‡e| GZ e¨eavb! GZ AZ¨vPvi, GB e¨e¯’vi cwieZ©b Avm‡ZB n‡e|
gvgyb: Avcbviv wecøe Ki‡Z cvi‡jb bv †Kb?
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gwZb: Avm‡eb, Avm‡eb| hw` †eu‡P _vwK|
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